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hello and welcome to episode number 81

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of the point of convergence podcast as

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always I am your host EXO academian

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when people are first introduced to the

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enigmatic topic known as the UFO

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phenomenon the working assumption is

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that this is a matter of determining

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whether or not aliens I.E

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extraterrestrials from some extrasolar

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Source have traversed the immense

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distances of outer space to arrive at

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our blue pearl of a planet either to a

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from a more positive view study us as in

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a scientific Expedition or B from a less

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positive view scope out our capabilities

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prior to some kind of invasion

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perhaps it should not be surprising that

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this is where the conversation Begins

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for people including those who flock to

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this topic since 2017 when the

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revelations of a now famous New York

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Times article first entered the public

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sphere suggesting to many that despite

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Decades of scoff and ridicule and

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X-Files jokes perhaps there really was a

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there there

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speaking of Decades of scoff and

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ridicule the decades leading up to the

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present one filled people's minds with

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the various scenarios I just mentioned

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that either these visitors from Beyond

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are here as part of a scientific

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Expedition as in Star Trek or as a

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Prelude to a full-on invasion of our

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planet as in War of the Worlds or

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Independence Day

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these are familiar tropes in science

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fiction and so it should not surprise us

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that this has worked its way into our

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cultural zeitgeist

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but those initial rather tame and

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predictable questions about what the

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so-called UFO phenomenon represents are

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quickly supplanted by much more profound

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far-reaching and for some disturbing

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questions once newcomers really begin to

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start poking around and considering the

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plethora of reports made by credible

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Witnesses going back decades and decades

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and perhaps even Millennia discussing

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in-person encounters with the

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intelligences supposedly responsible for

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the piloting of these sophisticated

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aerial Vehicles known as UFOs or UAP

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because as I just mentioned these

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encounters Trace back deep into human

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history and likely even pre-history one

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could argue that these more recent

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Sci-Fi encounters are really in the same

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overarching category as what we might

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deem religious encounters from yester

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Millennia the questions around what this

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all means suddenly become much more

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broadly sweeping and all-encompassing

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without doubt our religious Traditions

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have shaped the development of our

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civilization and even of our Collective

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consciousness

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and if the encounters that inspired

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those very Traditions didn't actually

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involve gods or Angels or demons after

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all at least not as they are typically

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portrayed interpreted and understood in

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religious Traditions then perhaps this

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phenomenon and the intelligences that

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comprise it has been much more

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intimately involved with our Evolution

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than we first realized and if that's the

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case then we're suddenly a long way from

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merely Star Trek or Independence Day

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territory

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eventually if one traces his back far

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enough especially in light of more

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recent Revelations suggesting these

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overarching intelligences can tweak our

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genetics and even partake in

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hybridization programs that lead to the

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emergence of entirely new species one

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inevitably lands at a very striking

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query could our very existence on this

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planet be a result of some earlier

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version of these same Endeavors and if

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that's the case how to popularly Hell

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beliefs in Notions such as reincarnation

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play into this is that a natural process

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or something more akin to what we might

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call technology involved

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these truly are not just mind-bending

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but also civilization shaking matters to

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consider

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and one wonders if we truly are nearing

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some kind of so-called disclosure around

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the existence of this phenomenon then

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just how many of these startling

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Revelations might be part of that mix

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and how exactly will our civilization

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handle such acknowledgments

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tricky nuanced matters to parse out to

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be sure but that's precisely what we'll

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Endeavor to do in this the 81st episode

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[Music]

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I'd like to begin this week's podcast

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with a couple of announcements first of

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all I'm happy to say that I will be

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speaking at the Ohio UFO Heritage

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conference at the Hope Hotel at Wright

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Patterson Air Force Base that conference

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is coming up on May 5th and 6th and I'm

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one of the speakers in addition to

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people like James Fox Diana Walsh pasoka

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Bryce Sable Michael Masters Micah Hanks

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Kelly Chase G Christopher King Phil Ford

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and J.F Martel so quite the group of

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people speaking at this conference there

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is both a main conference and a

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Consciousness Symposium I'm part of the

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Consciousness Symposium which will not

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be surprising to you on this podcast

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knowing that that is a major topic we

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touch on over and over again and really

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I believe it is Central not only to this

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topic of the UFO phenomenon and general

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paranormality but about reality itself

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ultimately

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so I hope to see some of you there that

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would be great the conference is again

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the Ohio UFO Heritage conference at the

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Hope Hotel at Wright Patterson Air Force

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Base in the lion stand as you might say

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again the conference happens on May 5th

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and 6th

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and you can either attend in person or

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you can take it in as a virtual

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conference as well you can get tickets

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for either one of those options again

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hope to see some of you there that's in

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May in Ohio

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the second announcement I want to make

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is that I am kicking up the features I

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offer for patrons and supporters of this

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podcast generally speaking I'm just

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going to be offering a lot more content

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so I hope that some people join in some

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of that further endeavoring uh by

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becoming patrons and supporters of this

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podcast and just to give you some ideas

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of what kind of things are coming number

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one I'm going to be offering additional

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feature Series so I announced recently

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that there's going to be the first of

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these series coming up soon which will

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be on the raw material the raw contact

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material teaching the law of one that's

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been a commonly requested topic for me

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to discuss so what I'm going to do is an

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entire feature series just on the raw

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material and that will be for patrons

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and supporters

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I will also be offering courses and

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Retreats as part of what I'm going to be

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offering in the future and patrons and

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supporters get both discounts and early

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entrance to those kinds of things

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finally I also plan to develop an app

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that will hold all this together in an

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easy to access kind of way as I've

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mentioned a couple of times previously

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my background is also in software

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engineering so I'm going to use those

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skills along with these topics that I'm

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really interested in and that I know

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that you are interested in to put it all

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together in one place so it's easy to

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access

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a couple of other features to mention

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patrons and supporters also have access

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to my private Discord server where we

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discuss these kinds of topics ongoingly

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through the week so you have access to

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that as well and of course you also get

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access to otcs squared which stands for

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off the cuff and on the cusp which is a

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podcast that happens in between POC

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sometimes every few weeks that has to do

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with current events both going on

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publicly what's going on for me

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privately I also do a q a section of

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that podcast and then finally hot takes

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on things are happening right now

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so those are all features and offerings

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that are part of what I offer for

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patrons and supporters if you're

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interested in that then you can go to

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patreon.com

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XO academian

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alright let's get into today's topic

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I titled today's episode a matrix of

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myth and Magic exploring the alien

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seating and oversight of civilizations

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that's what we'll be discussing it's a

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lot to get into let's first dive in with

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this notion of disclosure and what

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actually is entailed in disclosure

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now for those of you who've been tuning

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in for quite a while this will not be

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new to you but I just want to reiterate

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this because some people are joining

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later some people have come in Fairly

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recently so I want to take some time to

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just discuss this

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now someone with only a cursory

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understanding of this topic might think

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that disclosure is about recognizing and

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acknowledging that alien species are

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here that perhaps alien beings have

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flown craft perhaps via some form of

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superliminal that is faster than speed

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of light technology to arrive at our

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blue pearl of a planet perhaps as I said

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in the introduction as part of some

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scientific Expedition or perhaps in a

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more nefarious sense perhaps to prepare

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for some sort of invasion at least

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that's the usual tropes we hear about

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so some people think well so far they

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haven't done anything to us so perhaps

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they're just here observing and if

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that's the case many people will say why

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not acknowledge this why is this such a

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big deal why would that be something

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that the secret Keepers would want to

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hold tight to their best

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is it about for instance recovered

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technology reverse engineering of some

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of these craft that have crashed or been

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yes perhaps but that's not really all

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this is about this is much more

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far-reaching than that and that's what

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we want to get into today this is not

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just about UFOs and aliens as in ETS

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coming here as part of some recent

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phenomenon for instance only since

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stretches back far beyond that so far

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into pre-history indeed that we

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eventually arrive at this question could

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our very presence our very existence as

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a species be as a result of some

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Endeavor by these others and perhaps

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they appear in different forms or we

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perceive them in different forms or we

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apply them to different categories as

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our culture evolves but really is the

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same phenomenon over time

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now I want to discuss some of Jacques

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valet's work here because for those of

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there's not too many of you because he's

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one of the most well-known UFO

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researchers in history and definitely

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was someone who broke new ground for

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everyone raise the bar and made us think

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in deeper and broader ways which we all

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but what he noticed was that this is not

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a recent phenomenon and the reason he

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determined that is because when you look

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at more historic deeper historic kind of

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encounters with things like fairies and

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even religious figures in deep history

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there's actually a lot of overlap

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between the nature of those encounters

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and more recent encounters especially

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once you get Beyond this or a

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superficial layer which again might

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partly be interpretation and it may even

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be something that they're able to

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manipulate in order to work with our

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current cultural milieu

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this is something Jean valet said in

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passport to mogonia

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quote today there are still students of

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the phenomenon who reject the notion

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that the UFO phenomenon was reported

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before 1947 unquote

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a second quote from the same book

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passport to Magonia quote one prominent

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writer would allow old cases dating back

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some 200 years but not before because a

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long-term alien presence would negate

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the newest belief in an imminent

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extraterrestrial Invasion manifested

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through abductions aboard flying craft

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unquote

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so again they're a really important

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point to make note of here and this is

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something valet was great about noticing

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because the people often enter The Fray

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with a pre-existing notion of what this

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is a pre-existing belief basically this

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is Dogma at this point and they would go

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as far as to exclude data that wouldn't

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support that hypothesis but that's not

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how you do science that's not how we

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really get to the bottom of this we have

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to put aside our preconceptions our

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favorite Notions and look at as much of

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the data as we can and then determine

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perhaps what's going on but you want the

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broadest lens possible and that's

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something that the laborly has

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demonstrated in his approach to this

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entire matter

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now I want to cut to the chase in terms

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of what valet really concludes in

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passport to Magonia which is subtitled

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from folklore to flying saucers this

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quote gets at what he ultimately

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determined and what he thinks actually

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in the scope that we should be

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considering here

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in that book he concluded quote let us

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come to the point now it would be nice

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to hold on to the common belief that the

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UFOs are craft from a superior space

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civilization because this is a

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hypothesis science fiction has made

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widely acceptable and because we are not

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altogether unprepared scientifically and

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even perhaps militarily to deal with

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such visitors

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unfortunately however the theory that

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flying saucers are material objects from

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outer space manned by a race originating

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on some other planet is not a complete

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answer however strong the current belief

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in saucers from space it cannot be

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stronger than that Celtic belief in The

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Elves and the fairies or the medieval

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belief in lutons or the fear throughout

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the Christian lands in the first

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centuries of our era of demons and

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Saturns and fawns

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certainly it cannot be stronger than the

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faith that inspired the writers of the

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Bible a faith rooted in Daily

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experiences with Angelic visitation

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unquote

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so he really lays it out there saying

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that we can't be too narrow focused here

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we have to widen the scope as I said

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widen the lens open the aperture

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whatever metaphor you prefer and look at

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our entire history and beware of how at

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certain times we attach to certain

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narratives and then we notice certain

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phenomena in our environment and assign

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those phenomena to these pre-existing

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Notions or narratives but these

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narratives shift over time so perhaps

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it's not that these things are different

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or that there are different things that

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we're experiencing but rather perhaps

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it's the same thing the same phenomena

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but we are simply slotting in to the

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most recent narrative

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that's one possibility another

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possibility of course is that these

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others whatever they represent are able

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to be aware of are narratives of a

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particular era and are playing into

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those narratives so as to perhaps even

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shift or move or evolve our

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Consciousness that's really what the lay

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gets into in another of his books titled

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the invisible College as he goes about

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defining what he has called a control

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system now regarding this Control System

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Theory the lay broke it down into three

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different categories or three different

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levels the first level is the physical

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level

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and this speaks to the physical effects

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we would notice in our physical

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environment what we perceive as a

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physical reality involving things such

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as a great deal of energy light and

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microwave pulses emitted in a small

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space that kind of thing

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next he spoke to the Dual nature of the

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impact on individuals which was both

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physical and psychological so this could

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include things like the effects on

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Witnesses in a close encounter involving

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things like disorientation or

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misperceived time or what we often call

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missing time

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effects on the skin like Burns or

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conjunctivitis or temporary blindness

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those kinds of things but also positive

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things such as accelerated healing of

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fractures and superficial wounds and I

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would add sometimes the full-on healing

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of diseases that seemed incurable that's

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part of a physical and psychological

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level that impacts individuals who have

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Close Encounters

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third is the social level and this

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really speaks to the control system in

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its greatest extent

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this is the effect on our culture on our

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civilization

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at this level according to valet it

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doesn't really matter if UFOs themselves

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exist or not because if enough people

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believe in an event and a narrative then

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the effects are just as real as they

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need to be in other words all you need

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is believe because that changes Behavior

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now of course even if this is in play

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this kind of large sociological shaping

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or evolutionary management of our

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species that still begs the question

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who's doing it what's behind it

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certainly it could be some sort of

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extraterrestrial or interdimensional

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intelligence or perhaps it could even be

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the manifestation of the deep

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unconscious the Deep Collective

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unconscious almost the way that Jung

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might have imagined it these are the

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possibilities but this is what's in play

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Within Jacques valet's Control System

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Theory

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and just to be clear again the main

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point here is that the phenomena

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themselves are not really what we should

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focus on those can change and do change

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and delay is kind of making the argument

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that when you look at the entire scope

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of human history we do see the phenomena

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changing in terms of what they look like

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at the most superficial level but

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underlyingly perhaps it's the same

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mechanism which is ultimately geared

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towards evolving our Consciousness

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shaping the very development of our

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entire civilization

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so this is the promised land you might

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call it the genre delivered us unto and

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we should be thankful to him for it he

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took us from really considering whether

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or not these were just E.T aliens here

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visiting us in spacecraft

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too much deeper questions around the

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very nature of our existence the very

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nature of our beginning

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and consequently where this might all be

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headed

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now we already discussed the possibility

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that this could either be generated by

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some sort of extraterrestrial or

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interdimensional species or it could

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perhaps even be some sort of Life Force

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itself or the collective unconscious of

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humanity somehow manifesting these

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things as part of our evolution

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you could even argue those two could fit

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together that this alien intelligence

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whatever it is whatever its ultimate

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form is could actually seed our

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Collective Consciousness in such a way

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that at certain points this would arise

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so there could be some overlap there

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but I want to focus on this notion of

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another kind of intelligence another

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kind of species life form actually being

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responsible for our beginning the very

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seating of our civilization this will

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time with other topics we've discussed

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on this podcast in recent episodes

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first thing I want to point out to you

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is that statistically it makes a lot

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more sense to me that we actually would

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be the product of some sort of seating

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by some other kind of life form

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and the reason I say that is because

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when you look at the vast differences in

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the ages of different galaxies star

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systems and whatnot across the vast

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expanse of the cosmos there are some

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really big differences some Galaxies

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have been around for a lot longer than

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others even the outer arm of a galaxy is

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much newer than the inner center of a

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galaxy and we already know that we are

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on the outer arm of the Milky Way galaxy

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so we're much newer planet and therefore

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civilization than some civilizations

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that might have formed closer to the

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center of the Galaxy and to be clear

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here we're not talking about a

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difference in terms of a few hundred

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years or a few thousand years or even a

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few hundred thousand years we're talking

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about millions or even billions of years

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difference in terms of the age of these

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civilizations now we just think back to

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our own civilization in the last 100

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years how we've gone from horse and

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Buggies to actually having spacecraft

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now that have left our solar system all

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together other

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really there has been a massive leap in

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technological progress in just 100 years

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so imagine what 1 000 years or a hundred

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thousand years or millions of years

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would do in terms of the development of

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a civilization its technological

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progress really when you think about it

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you quickly end up with a null space a

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blank slate because we just can't think

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that far ahead

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we have a hard time imagining what our

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world will be like in 100 years even let

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alone thousands of years or millions of

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years at that point it's completely

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beyond our imagination basically

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so that being the case

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knowing that it's very likely based on

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the sheer size of the cosmos and just

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how many galaxies and star systems there

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are numbers that really Boggle the mind

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because they're so huge just the sheer

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immensity of the cosmos and the Myriad

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numbers of galaxies and star systems

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populating it lead us to believe that

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even if life only Springs up on the

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minority of planets that there still

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should be life teeming throughout the

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cosmos and that some of that life some

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of those civilizations will be much

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older than us

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and what do civilizations do as they

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develop

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well they tend to expand they tend to

558
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:20,280
start playing with the very ingredients

559
00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:22,500
of life itself look at what we're doing

560
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:24,780
with genetic manipulation look what we

561
00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:27,360
do with puppies and dogs that we want to

562
00:21:32,330 --> 00:21:29,220
look a certain way we breed them in

563
00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:32,340
certain ways we manipulate the growth of

564
00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:34,200
different vegetables so that it suits

565
00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:36,360
our needs we shape our entire

566
00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:39,179
environment to our needs and even in

567
00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:41,700
terms of expressing our curiosity we try

568
00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:44,520
new experiments with life and life forms

569
00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:46,980
and that scales up more and more to the

570
00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:49,140
part where we're now considering putting

571
00:21:55,010 --> 00:21:52,140
brain ships in to actually augment so to

572
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:55,020
speak are intellectual capacities right

573
00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:56,520
this is something that Elon Musk has

574
00:22:01,130 --> 00:21:58,500
talked about in addition of course to

575
00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:01,140
Elon Musk being ready to take us to Mars

576
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,520
and we'll get to that in a little bit

577
00:22:06,169 --> 00:22:04,559
and why that might be problematic to

578
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:06,179
some of these overarching intelligences

579
00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:08,460
based on the current state of our

580
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:10,140
civilization

581
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,000
but the point I'm trying to make here is

582
00:22:16,190 --> 00:22:14,400
that we already see in our own

583
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,200
development that we move towards these

584
00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:18,240
things what might we get up to in

585
00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:20,100
another thousand years or a million

586
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:22,500
years or millions of years

587
00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:25,200
it's not hard to imagine that we would

588
00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:27,480
actually go about terraforming planets

589
00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,220
and actually planting new civilizations

590
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,740
and even playing with the notion of

591
00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:34,320
developing new species of intelligent

592
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,840
life so when you think about all these

593
00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:39,120
matters the the statistics I just

594
00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:41,640
mentioned it should actually be more

595
00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,500
likely from my point of view that we

596
00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:45,720
sprung up through a mechanism like that

597
00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:48,419
then by some sheer fluke of the

598
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:50,700
randomness that will be described in

599
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,740
something like the theory of evolution

600
00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:54,720
by natural selection

601
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,820
I also want to point out another mistake

602
00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:59,039
I noticed us making very often in our

603
00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:00,120
species

604
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,520
we don't really consider how different

605
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:04,799
the categories even become the category

606
00:23:10,130 --> 00:23:08,039
of possibilities as we progress so even

607
00:23:12,110 --> 00:23:10,140
groups like seti and different private

608
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,120
groups even looking for so-called alien

609
00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:13,919
life are still going in with certain

610
00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:16,140
assumptions that I think are far too

611
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,020
narrow and really these assumptions come

612
00:23:24,409 --> 00:23:21,600
down to us assuming we're close to the

613
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:24,419
summit of understanding not only about

614
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,700
space-time and the nature of the cosmos

615
00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:28,559
but the nature of Ultimate Reality

616
00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:30,659
altogether and because we feel like

617
00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,179
we're close to that Summit we assume

618
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,580
that if we find life or we even look for

619
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,440
it we should look for it within certain

620
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:39,840
parameters but again the Assumption here

621
00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:42,000
the unstated Assumption the

622
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:44,100
preconception is that we're close to a

623
00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:46,260
summit understanding so therefore they

624
00:23:51,409 --> 00:23:48,780
must fit in somewhere within the general

625
00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:51,419
parameters of what we understand but of

626
00:23:55,490 --> 00:23:52,980
course that is a highly suspect

627
00:23:57,649 --> 00:23:55,500
conclusion to draw it's a highly suspect

628
00:24:00,110 --> 00:23:57,659
condition in which to conduct these

629
00:24:02,330 --> 00:24:00,120
experiments and to conduct these search

630
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,340
issues so much so that I actually

631
00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:04,080
believe that most of the time we're

632
00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:05,880
actually conducting what are called

633
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:08,100
category errors or category mistakes

634
00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:10,740
which is defined like this

635
00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:13,140
a category error is the error of

636
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:15,299
assigning to something a quality or

637
00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:17,580
action that can properly be assigned to

638
00:24:22,909 --> 00:24:20,520
things only of another category for

639
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:22,919
example treating abstract Concepts as

640
00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:24,299
though they had a physical location

641
00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:26,039
unquote

642
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,960
so what I see Happening Here is this

643
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:29,760
assumption that our notion of space-time

644
00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:32,100
is mostly complete our notion of the

645
00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:34,740
nature of reality is mostly complete our

646
00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,299
notion of the understanding of how

647
00:24:41,090 --> 00:24:39,000
species evolve is mostly complete and

648
00:24:43,010 --> 00:24:41,100
because we believe all those things we

649
00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:43,020
look to find evidence of these others

650
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:45,780
within that General framework and that's

651
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:47,940
where we go wrong now it suggests you

652
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,159
that the fact that this phenomenon so

653
00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:52,980
often exceeds those parameters and

654
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,900
basically laughs at them in the way that

655
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,360
it manifests right it just makes us feel

656
00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,520
as if something absurd is happening

657
00:25:03,649 --> 00:25:01,260
speaks not to the fact that it's

658
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,659
ultimately absurd but that our

659
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:05,760
expectation that it should fit within

660
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:08,100
those parameters is what is absurd and

661
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,620
so we perceive it as absurdity

662
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,720
and of course beyond that even when we

663
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,400
think about dimensional layers of

664
00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:16,559
reality it has been noted before that

665
00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:19,380
when a higher dimensional form actually

666
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:22,140
manifests in a lower dimensional form or

667
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:24,360
projects into a lower dimensional matrix

668
00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:26,820
it's going to appear absurd because it

669
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:29,940
gets translated mistranslated truncated

670
00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:33,480
into a framework that is not able to

671
00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:37,260
adequately realistically represent that

672
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:39,720
higher dimensional reality and so it

673
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:41,580
ends up looking absurd because of that

674
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:43,980
mistranslation that truncating of

675
00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:46,440
something more complex and all that is

676
00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:49,020
to say like filet I welcome the

677
00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:50,760
opportunity for us to do some quote

678
00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:53,640
unquote good science as he like to say

679
00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:57,240
we should in fact Endeavor to apply the

680
00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:59,580
scientific method to this phenomenon to

681
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,559
understand as much as we can

682
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:03,840
we should bring in academics from a

683
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,580
variety of disciplines to make this a

684
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:07,200
multi-disciplinary kind of research

685
00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:08,460
endeavor

686
00:26:13,010 --> 00:26:10,980
absolutely we should do that

687
00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:13,020
but we should also recognize that what

688
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:14,940
this phenomenon has already demonstrated

689
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:17,820
even in how the lay likes to say what

690
00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:19,980
the UFO phenomenon teaches us is that we

691
00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:23,400
do not understand space-time full stop

692
00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:25,980
he said what is in play here is a

693
00:26:30,409 --> 00:26:28,260
scientific revolution and I think we

694
00:26:31,970 --> 00:26:30,419
have to be honest with researchers who

695
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,980
are coming in that that's really what's

696
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:34,559
in play now they may at first balk at

697
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,360
that notion they might think we're silly

698
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,640
unscientific people but actually people

699
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:41,039
who have a scientific background who are

700
00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:43,080
the most familiar with this topic people

701
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,539
like Kong kelleter people who studied

702
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:48,000
this at Skinwalker Ranch and saw how

703
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,179
somehow strange paranormal phenomena

704
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,760
co-arose with UFOs and things like that

705
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:56,159
and how you have things like Sasquatch

706
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,500
and the appearance of what for all

707
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:00,080
intents and purposes look like

708
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,220
interdimensional portals appearing in

709
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,039
the sky as well as beings have seen to

710
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,919
manifest from some other frame of

711
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,320
space-time all that speaks to this being

712
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:12,720
about much more than what modern science

713
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:15,480
conventional science is willing to is

714
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:18,419
prepared to accept so that's why I say

715
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:20,460
really a scientific revolution of the

716
00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:22,860
highest order is in play here and I

717
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,419
think we should be honest about that as

718
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:26,640
we move forward and actually get excited

719
00:27:30,289 --> 00:27:27,960
about it rather than actually feeling

720
00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:30,299
frustrated that our previous Notions of

721
00:27:35,149 --> 00:27:33,000
what reality is are being contradicted

722
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:35,159
and superseded we should see that we are

723
00:27:39,169 --> 00:27:37,140
on the cusp on the precipice of a real

724
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:39,179
breakthrough in understanding that

725
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:41,700
perhaps could even help us solve some of

726
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:42,900
the problems we are currently

727
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:45,600
encountering because as Einstein

728
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:47,880
permissively said we cannot solve our

729
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,740
problems with the same level of thinking

730
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,360
that created them

731
00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:53,520
we are certainly at the cusp of some

732
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,620
major issues in our society in our

733
00:28:01,130 --> 00:27:57,840
civilization potentially civilization

734
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:01,140
ending civilization collapsing kinds of

735
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:02,940
challenges so we need this kind of

736
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:05,100
Revolution and not a revolution just in

737
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,260
terms of scientific understanding but

738
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:09,840
hopefully one that Embraces the

739
00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:12,720
underlying and overarching significance

740
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:15,659
and Primacy of Consciousness and not

741
00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:17,640
just local Consciousness not just the

742
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,559
consciousness of a single individual

743
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:21,600
that feels separate from everything else

744
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:24,179
but an understanding of Consciousness in

745
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:25,980
terms of seeing that we are all

746
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:27,720
connected that we are all actually

747
00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:30,419
fractal impressions of source ultimate

748
00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:33,000
source not only us but also these alien

749
00:28:38,269 --> 00:28:35,400
beings we are encountering and that this

750
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:38,279
new understanding of connectivity of how

751
00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:40,500
everything impacts everything else will

752
00:28:44,269 --> 00:28:42,120
actually help us move forward in a way

753
00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:44,279
that actually is more sustainable and

754
00:28:48,409 --> 00:28:46,200
one that honors the nobility of the

755
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:48,419
human Spirit and the nobility of every

756
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:52,200
sentient form of life in the cosmos

757
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:54,419
now I already mentioned that I think we

758
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:56,100
need to be prepared for a scientific

759
00:29:00,049 --> 00:28:58,380
revolution of the highest order based on

760
00:29:02,510 --> 00:29:00,059
what is being presented by this

761
00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:02,520
phenomenon the data being presented by

762
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:04,500
it the criteria and what that points

763
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,520
towards

764
00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:07,919
I would also point out that even data

765
00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:09,900
we've already obtained is pointing

766
00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:11,880
towards a very different structured

767
00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:13,980
reality than we've been accustomed to

768
00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:15,779
and that we like to build our models

769
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:18,539
from so for instance I've discussed how

770
00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:20,520
Revelations arising from Quantum

771
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:23,159
experiments 100 years ago still haven't

772
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:25,380
really been grappled with by scientists

773
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:28,020
in fact I would suggest that we've gone

774
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:29,820
out of our way as a scientific community

775
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,340
and as a civilization in the west anyway

776
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:35,279
to basically just avoid this data we

777
00:29:39,889 --> 00:29:37,260
tried to walk around it like it's a

778
00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:39,899
giant thing the proverbial pink elephant

779
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,880
sitting in the middle of a trail and

780
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:44,159
we've tried to go around the elephant as

781
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,620
if to pretend it's not really there in

782
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,760
other words we're not really dealing

783
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,380
with the data we're just proposing more

784
00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:52,260
and more outlandish sub theories to

785
00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:54,059
explain how it might not be what we

786
00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:56,220
think it is rather than dealing with the

787
00:30:00,830 --> 00:29:57,899
fact that it's actually there and it's

788
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:00,840
saying something about the inadequacy of

789
00:30:04,909 --> 00:30:02,760
our models it's blowing up our models

790
00:30:06,529 --> 00:30:04,919
into such a degree that scientists don't

791
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,539
really want to deal with it they don't

792
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,399
know how to deal with it because it

793
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,279
uproots so much especially as it

794
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:13,200
pertains to this notion that physicalism

795
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,200
actually depicts Ultimate Reality as

796
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:18,480
I've said many times on this podcast I

797
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:20,100
don't think it does and it's not just my

798
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:22,500
belief there's actually mounting data

799
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:24,659
really convincing data suggesting that

800
00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:27,240
physicalism is not even tenable as a

801
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,059
model anymore so we really need to be

802
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:31,919
using this phenomenon the data coming

803
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,380
from it to embrace the fact that this is

804
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:36,720
actually steering us in a direction to

805
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,220
answer some of the questions that are

806
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:40,559
already being begged by other data that

807
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:42,059
we've already come across and that we've

808
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,520
had for at least 100 years

809
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:47,039
and again I would suggest that this data

810
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,260
points towards Consciousness being

811
00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:52,140
primary not physical reality

812
00:30:56,269 --> 00:30:53,880
we think back to for instance the double

813
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:56,279
slit experiment prior to this kind of

814
00:31:00,889 --> 00:30:58,140
experiment we just assumed that reality

815
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:00,899
just was regardless of who was observing

816
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,480
it but really that notion goes out the

817
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:05,760
door as a result of the findings and

818
00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:07,500
then double slit experiment

819
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:09,179
the implication being that what we

820
00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:11,460
perceive as physical reality is actually

821
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:13,460
not only influenced by but perhaps

822
00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:16,559
derived by Consciousness itself that's

823
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:17,640
what we see with some of those

824
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:19,740
experiments and I'll just remind you of

825
00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:22,260
what Niels Bohr one of the early Quantum

826
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:24,899
physicists sent about the revelations of

827
00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:27,779
quantum mechanics he said quote if

828
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:29,820
quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly

829
00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:32,399
shocked you you haven't understood it

830
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,480
yet

831
00:31:38,110 --> 00:31:36,000
and that's really key if you're not

832
00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:38,120
shocked by it you have not understood

833
00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:40,500
just how far reaching the implications

834
00:31:45,289 --> 00:31:43,320
are how it effectively rips out the

835
00:31:47,389 --> 00:31:45,299
ground from underneath us and we find

836
00:31:49,549 --> 00:31:47,399
ourselves hanging in midair not even

837
00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:49,559
knowing what that error is composed of

838
00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:51,960
but picking up on inkling suggesting

839
00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:54,840
that that stuff that is all around us is

840
00:31:59,149 --> 00:31:56,940
actually derivative of something we

841
00:32:01,789 --> 00:31:59,159
might call Consciousness some sort of

842
00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:01,799
mentation process that has as much to do

843
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,500
with our feeling of being us as it has

844
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:06,480
to do with the things that manifest

845
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:09,059
around us and what we perceive as a

846
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:11,100
physical reality but again the key here

847
00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:12,840
is that that physical reality is not

848
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,419
independent of Us and other Agents Of

849
00:32:19,549 --> 00:32:17,279
Consciousness in fact it's the very

850
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:19,559
opposite its existence physical

851
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:22,620
reality's existence is actually impacted

852
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:25,140
by and determined by Consciousness

853
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:26,340
itself

854
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,200
and just to be clear there because this

855
00:32:32,210 --> 00:32:29,760
gets a bit confusing for people because

856
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:32,220
Consciousness that term is used in many

857
00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:34,020
different ways but we're ultimately

858
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:36,779
pointing towards here is Source the

859
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,940
original mind that gave birth to

860
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,760
everything every entity every physical

861
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:43,679
structure or what appears as a physical

862
00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:46,140
structure all of the interrelationships

863
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,779
in reality are ultimately mentation

864
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,360
processes and we ourselves therefore

865
00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:54,000
again are fractal impressions of that

866
00:32:59,330 --> 00:32:56,460
original mind as are all of these alien

867
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:59,340
beings in our midst another metaphor

868
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,840
that might be helpful is that of a

869
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:02,640
diamond so rather than considering

870
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,340
ourselves as separate diamonds we are

871
00:33:09,769 --> 00:33:07,440
actually different facets of the same

872
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,779
diamond and because light hits those

873
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,760
different angles and reflects a

874
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:13,279
different reality a different experience

875
00:33:18,169 --> 00:33:16,380
it can appear like it is separate but

876
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,179
ultimately is the same thing it's the

877
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:20,880
same Diamond the same ultimate source

878
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,399
but the different refractions of light

879
00:33:27,169 --> 00:33:25,679
are what we can consider our personal

880
00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:27,179
experiences

881
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,580
but again that individuality is

882
00:33:33,769 --> 00:33:31,440
ultimately illusory we actually are

883
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,779
connected to this Source we are this

884
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,240
source as is every other sentient being

885
00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:39,440
and for that matter every other supposed

886
00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:42,120
inanimate object is also part of this

887
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:46,140
Central Diamond Source itself

888
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,019
so if we take as a given as a

889
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,880
presupposition and every model begins

890
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:53,279
with some presuppositions if we begin

891
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:55,320
with the notion that Consciousness is

892
00:34:00,350 --> 00:33:58,320
fundamental is primary and from that

893
00:34:02,509 --> 00:34:00,360
underlying bedrock everything else that

894
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,519
appears as for instance physical reality

895
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,100
or energy is actually a manifestation of

896
00:34:10,010 --> 00:34:07,679
that deeper structure we can also apply

897
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:10,020
that to these others again with the

898
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:11,399
notion that perhaps they've been around

899
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:14,520
for millions of years longer than us how

900
00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:15,899
would their understanding of reality

901
00:34:20,329 --> 00:34:18,179
have developed it would not just have to

902
00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:20,339
build in terms of Greater technology in

903
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:22,619
terms of manipulating the physical world

904
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:25,560
but because really the physical world is

905
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:28,200
a manifestation a derivative of some

906
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:30,179
deeper structure based in Consciousness

907
00:34:34,849 --> 00:34:33,240
then it's logical to assume that

908
00:34:36,589 --> 00:34:34,859
eventually they would begin to develop

909
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,599
technology that would work on that level

910
00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:38,700
at the level of that deeper structure

911
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:40,500
and I would suggest that we actually see

912
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:42,020
that in the way that they're able to

913
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:45,540
manipulate and control our Behavior our

914
00:34:50,829 --> 00:34:48,480
emotions our sense of space-time all of

915
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,839
these things indicate that some deeper

916
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:53,220
manipulation of reality is going on and

917
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:55,260
a deeper structure Beyond space-time

918
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:56,940
altogether

919
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,820
now because we're talking about a deeper

920
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:01,859
structure of reality from which this

921
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,780
becomes a derivative form so both

922
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:05,760
quantum theory and space time the

923
00:35:08,770 --> 00:35:07,980
physical world as we perceive it are

924
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,780
actually

925
00:35:13,849 --> 00:35:11,460
byproducts of this deeper structure and

926
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:13,859
what's happening there then we can also

927
00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:15,300
think about that in terms of what we

928
00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:17,460
consider life in other words what we

929
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,099
consider the process of birth maturation

930
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:23,040
and death are actually again not what

931
00:35:26,329 --> 00:35:24,480
they appear to be

932
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,339
we already see this evidenced in

933
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:29,040
reincarnation studies and in near-death

934
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,900
experiences out of body experiences

935
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:33,359
where people have experiences and

936
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,640
memories that seem to violate our

937
00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:38,160
Notions of a life existing as an

938
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:40,020
individual iteration and then being

939
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:41,339
wiped out

940
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:43,560
what we actually see evidence of is some

941
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,200
deeper level of reality from which this

942
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:48,540
lifetime is just one manifestation of

943
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,700
many and that it points to some deeper

944
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,040
structure that makes the notion of

945
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:55,680
biological life being a thing unto

946
00:36:00,109 --> 00:35:58,500
itself also partial and ultimately

947
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:00,119
illusory

948
00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:02,220
now let's bring this back around to the

949
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,260
notion that perhaps our civilization was

950
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:06,240
seated by one of these other older

951
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:08,460
intelligences that are now working at

952
00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:10,020
the level of this deeper structure

953
00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:12,060
Beyond physical reality beyond space

954
00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:13,260
time

955
00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:15,720
we already know from the literature that

956
00:36:20,089 --> 00:36:17,579
hybridization programs and genetic

957
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,099
tweaking are happening this is something

958
00:36:25,069 --> 00:36:22,079
that's Central to the UFO phenomenon

959
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:25,079
data so from there it's not at all a

960
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:27,180
stretch really to consider that our very

961
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:30,119
existence here is due to some sort of

962
00:36:35,450 --> 00:36:32,700
process that they put into place or at

963
00:36:37,609 --> 00:36:35,460
least that they handled or oversaw or

964
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,619
managed at some point along the process

965
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:40,079
because again if this is about a deeper

966
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:41,640
process and a deeper structure of

967
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:43,260
reality then again our understanding

968
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,260
even of where life begins and ends is

969
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,200
faulty but nevertheless we certainly can

970
00:36:53,089 --> 00:36:51,119
consider it as a possibility even

971
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:53,099
perhaps a likelihood based on what I

972
00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:54,900
said before about statistics and

973
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:57,240
different ages of civilizations likely

974
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,700
then it's not at all a stretch to

975
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:01,200
imagine that they did see to our

976
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,060
civilization and we already see evidence

977
00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:05,520
of hybridization programs genetic

978
00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:07,320
tweaking we already have evidence

979
00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:09,000
suggesting that there was a major leap

980
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,640
in the capacity of hominids at some

981
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,640
point in history that seems to defy the

982
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:17,040
normal pace of how Evolution would roll

983
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,260
out so all of those things are pointing

984
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:21,359
towards this possibility that we were

985
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,720
seated by some of these others

986
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,160
there's another piece that I want to

987
00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:27,839
bring to your attention and it has to do

988
00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:29,940
with the crash retrievals we mentioned

989
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,099
earlier again people tend to think that

990
00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:34,800
means aliens from Alpha Centauri or is

991
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:37,500
it a reticuli but it's much more complex

992
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,460
than that because as The Story Goes one

993
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,440
of the most startling perhaps the most

994
00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:46,079
startling implication of the Roswell

995
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:48,900
crash and retrieval not just of craft

996
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:51,240
but also of bodies if you remember

997
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,579
was that there was actually a DNA Link

998
00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:56,400
Between Us and Them

999
00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:58,859
yes indeed some sort of genetic common

1000
00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:00,119
round

1001
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:02,339
and again if we think about our largest

1002
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,500
scope here bringing in also religious

1003
00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:07,200
history we think about scriptural texts

1004
00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:09,300
that talk about being made in the image

1005
00:38:14,569 --> 00:38:11,880
of some other being some Creator right

1006
00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:14,579
or what we perceive as a Creator so that

1007
00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:16,619
perhaps could Link in here in the sense

1008
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:18,900
that we actually share some of their

1009
00:38:24,109 --> 00:38:21,180
genetic Heritage that they are actually

1010
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:24,119
hybridizing themselves perhaps in some

1011
00:38:28,490 --> 00:38:26,760
distant point in history and again what

1012
00:38:30,109 --> 00:38:28,500
I would suggest to you there is not that

1013
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:30,119
we therefore limit our understanding

1014
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:32,760
that perhaps we are actually hybridized

1015
00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:35,760
or mutated gray aliens but that they

1016
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,280
themselves are also a further iteration

1017
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:41,160
of some earlier form again of source of

1018
00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:43,560
an expression of source of sentience

1019
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:46,140
that goes back to source so even when

1020
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,820
these species somewhere along the way

1021
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,640
are able to manage the evolution of

1022
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:52,320
Consciousness and the development of

1023
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:54,300
Consciousness at least at some point

1024
00:38:58,609 --> 00:38:56,579
along the journey It ultimately is about

1025
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:58,619
this deeper structure of reality where

1026
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:01,200
Consciousness is primary right

1027
00:39:06,829 --> 00:39:04,020
in other words they themselves are

1028
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,839
already iterations impressions of that

1029
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,640
original mind and that just keeps

1030
00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:10,800
getting passed down and that eventually

1031
00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:13,079
perhaps even we too will cede

1032
00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:15,660
civilizations that has some aspect of us

1033
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:17,820
which of course relates back to that

1034
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:20,640
original mind that original Source this

1035
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:24,060
is key somehow this notion of God is

1036
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:25,859
Central to all of this if you will if

1037
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:27,720
you can get rid of the religious package

1038
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:30,480
but what we see in religious history is

1039
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,359
the retaining of some sort of memory of

1040
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,240
some sort of intervention by some group

1041
00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:38,400
that has been in religious history

1042
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:40,740
referred to as an assembly of the gods

1043
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:43,140
or some sort of divine counsel again

1044
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,060
based on an earlier iteration of our

1045
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,000
Consciousness that's how we saw them but

1046
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,760
what if it's just these others at a

1047
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,320
certain point along the trajectory of

1048
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,480
their Consciousness development now

1049
00:39:59,089 --> 00:39:57,060
overseeing the further development of

1050
00:40:01,849 --> 00:39:59,099
Consciousness in new iterations which

1051
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:01,859
represent us but they themselves cells

1052
00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:04,440
also were the product of some earlier

1053
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,020
source of the same kind of process and

1054
00:40:11,089 --> 00:40:09,119
this goes on and on and this is

1055
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:11,099
ultimately Source expressing itself

1056
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:14,220
Source understanding itself so you see

1057
00:40:18,050 --> 00:40:15,900
from my point of view this really ties

1058
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:18,060
in with Buddhist and pedantic thought

1059
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,760
about original mind about Source about

1060
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:22,800
the notion of individuality and

1061
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:25,740
separation ultimately being illusory and

1062
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:27,540
so I think we need to tie in those

1063
00:40:31,569 --> 00:40:29,940
things because what I see is that all of

1064
00:40:34,609 --> 00:40:31,579
this is pointing in the same direction

1065
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,619
the manifestation of the phenomena in

1066
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:37,440
our midst Revelations that are arising

1067
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:39,540
in space-time experiments and quantum

1068
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:41,820
theory suggesting that space-time cannot

1069
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,980
be fundamental there must be some deeper

1070
00:40:48,109 --> 00:40:46,320
structure as well as this overarching

1071
00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:48,119
experience sense that so many human

1072
00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:50,280
beings have that we are more than we've

1073
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,680
been told that we are that we even have

1074
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,720
identities that go back to previous

1075
00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:57,599
lifetimes even previous forms and some

1076
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:00,660
sense that underlyingly overarchingly we

1077
00:41:04,849 --> 00:41:03,480
are absolutely connected to everyone and

1078
00:41:08,329 --> 00:41:04,859
everything

1079
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,339
now finally in conclusion because we

1080
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,079
pointed to Consciousness being so

1081
00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:12,720
Central to this entire Endeavor not just

1082
00:41:17,810 --> 00:41:15,420
the UFO phenomenon but reality itself

1083
00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:17,820
and that underlying what we mean by

1084
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:20,339
Consciousness is iterations of source

1085
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:22,079
original mind

1086
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,880
there's something else we can take from

1087
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,440
this that I think should give us

1088
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:28,079
encouragement and that is that the most

1089
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:31,020
powerful of these others would be closer

1090
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:33,660
to Source they in their development as

1091
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:35,700
they learn to wield the technology even

1092
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:38,400
of Consciousness they are also moving

1093
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,500
closer and closer to an understanding

1094
00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:43,200
and alignment with the purpose and the

1095
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,720
perspective of source itself

1096
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,240
and what does that produce it produces

1097
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,119
an ever expanding sense of care and

1098
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,280
concern an ever-expanding sense of

1099
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:56,160
identity that they see us like I've said

1100
00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:58,140
before as little brothers and sisters

1101
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:00,119
and that doesn't mean there aren't

1102
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,000
iterations of source in the form of some

1103
00:42:07,010 --> 00:42:05,040
sort of alien intelligence that perhaps

1104
00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:07,020
is not at that point and there certainly

1105
00:42:11,690 --> 00:42:09,240
are groups that seem to want to

1106
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:11,700
manipulate dominate suppress take

1107
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:13,800
advantage of just like human beings do

1108
00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:16,440
at a certain stage of Consciousness but

1109
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:18,839
what we can take away is that the most

1110
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benevolent ones are also the most

1111
00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:23,040
powerful the most exalted ones the ones

1112
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:25,079
closest to source

1113
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,820
and in fact I would suggest to you

1114
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,440
that's exactly why we have not been

1115
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:30,480
invaded by some of the more nefarious

1116
00:42:36,109 --> 00:42:33,420
groups because we are protected by the

1117
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:36,119
most overarching and benevolent and

1118
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:38,520
powerful and exultant of these groups

1119
00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:41,820
and that what is really in play here is

1120
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,180
the consideration of the best interests

1121
00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:48,000
of every sentient being that's part of

1122
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:50,820
this process that means not just us but

1123
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,060
the animal species the Earth itself all

1124
00:42:58,609 --> 00:42:56,160
of these factors come into play when

1125
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,619
this overarching kind of council that's

1126
00:43:02,569 --> 00:43:00,720
referred to in scripture and has also

1127
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,579
been referred to in the UFO phenomenon

1128
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:04,880
as the Galactic Federation for instance

1129
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:07,740
their purpose is to manage all of that

1130
00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:09,780
to act in the best interest of the

1131
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:11,880
totality because they see that as an

1132
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:14,579
extension of them an extension of source

1133
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:16,980
and in that sense regardless of what

1134
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,900
happens they are considering not just

1135
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:20,880
the best interests of all those agents

1136
00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:23,220
but all of those agents expressed across

1137
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,520
multiple lifetimes so in the end this is

1138
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,560
about the greatest good that's what I

1139
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:30,480
would suggest to you even though we have

1140
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,079
moments even periods even epochs of real

1141
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:36,540
struggle of real Challenge and even

1142
00:43:40,849 --> 00:43:38,940
physical existence itself with all of

1143
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:40,859
the red tooth and Claw challenges we

1144
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,619
Face here is actually also just one

1145
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,319
iteration in a spectrum of Consciousness

1146
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,960
development and as we keep progressing

1147
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:50,640
along that spiral of Consciousness

1148
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:53,760
development we too one day have the

1149
00:44:00,530 --> 00:43:58,079
opportunity to ascend to transcend to

1150
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,540
some post-biological form but we don't

1151
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:02,400
face some of the challenges we do now

1152
00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:05,640
but this is one aspect along the journey

1153
00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:08,220
one stopping point where we have to

1154
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:10,619
learn certain lessons this is kind of a

1155
00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:13,020
Kindergarten class if you will is it

1156
00:44:18,109 --> 00:44:15,420
early is it primitive yes is it

1157
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,119
necessary absolutely and ultimately

1158
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:20,880
because we too are Source we have the

1159
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:24,180
opportunity to ascend and transcend to

1160
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,319
that alignment with ultimate source

1161
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:30,960
and on that note we've come to the close

1162
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:33,060
of another edition of the point of

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00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:35,339
convergence podcast if you'd like to

1164
00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:37,500
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1165
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,819
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1166
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,160
but until next time friends from deep

1167
00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:46,079
within the Blue Ridge Mountains of North

1168
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:49,319
Carolina this is exo-academian signing

1169
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,710
out

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